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  • dang 10 hours ago
    Discussed at the time:

    Malleable software: Restoring user agency in a world of locked-down apps - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44237881 - June 2025 (114 comments)

  • dmdiefjeidnn 1 hour ago
    I always find these ideas funny. Been working with computers for decades and never once have I thought software “malleable”. Maybe back when I had to actually type the program into my Speccy to get anything to work… but then again it wasn’t a “let’s make software malleable” situation, it was more of a “this is how we can distribute software right now” type of thing.

    Software was never malleable. User agency is a tale you tell yourselves to try and justify your rose-tinted glasses. Could things be better in computer world? Absolutely. But you could’ve ask us the same way back then and the answer would still be “absolutely”.

    • mickael-kerjean 1 hour ago
      Malleability is a great answer to avoid the death by a thousand feature where you bloat your software because a company asked for something 99% of your users don't care about. That's the path I went with for my open source work with plugins that can run from a wasm runtime to prevent those from doing crazy things [1]. Unsurprisingly plugins represent more than 10x the code than what the core provides.

      [1] https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/filestash

    • josephg 43 minutes ago
      Sure, but the point is to try and fix that.

      Our software is already malleable in a bunch of ways: APIs, integrations, extensions, plugins and compatible formats (eg lots of programs can edit a .md file). But all of this stuff is special-cased. Every program that wants to read a .psd has to write its own - probably buggy - parser. I can't just take the data in application A as JSON - at least not without claude. And I can't connect applications A and B and have them bidirectionally sync except with hacky scripts which will break in lots of situations.

      I love the idea of fixing that.

    • myaccountonhn 49 minutes ago
      Weird, I use emacs and form it as I please, and I do have agency. The way you describe it, I don't exist.
      • ididjsjdjwj 10 minutes ago
        That’s… not a valid point. eMacs whole point is being “malleable”, but the point is that not every software has to be, and they never have been by default.
        • enos_feedler 1 minute ago
          Its quite reasonable to assume a future operating system could take on the malleability of emacs? That would make it the default. Just because it hasn’t doesn’t mean it can’t be.